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Sepulchre
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So while I've been away, I've had... time. Lots of time to think, and one thing I thought of was Runescape. I just came back to do Children of Mah, and now I'm all on the hype train for Sliske's Endgame. But there was something in CoM that made me go back to a previous thought during my break.

Mah. Mah was the Elder God responsible for supressing mortal life, also the one responsible most likely for giving things "potential," in other words, giving things the ability to make progress and evolve. It's rather unfortunate that she was the one to be corrupted. Then it happened:

I found Mah's core in the deepest part of the nightmare. There was something wrong with it, like it had been corrupted.

Then the sickness that plagued her must have wound its way right through her deepest essence, or...originated there. Player, what did this corruption look like?

Like an icy scar. A spiral of blue crystal carved deep into the core.

Just like the eggs in the Elder Halls. Surely it could not be...


The question isn't how did this corruption get there... it's WEN?

So here we are at an impasse. Why of all things, would Wen WANT there to be more mortal life? Mortal life corrupts the Anima of the world... which is bad for beings who feed on pure Anima. It was Zaros who once told us that "Mortals produce more Anima than the Elder Gods realize." Well what if he's wrong about Wen? What if Wen DOES know? What if Wen corrupted Mah to allow for MORE Anima to be generated by mortals? Well that's all fine and dandy, but now we're missing a piece of our quintet to create the perfect world..

Well, what if I told you that's not a problem anymore? What if I told you they no longer WILL create worlds? A
World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
in themselves.
Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate .

16-Dec-2016 05:35:03 - Last edited on 16-Dec-2016 05:46:19 by Sepulchre

Sepulchre
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That brings me to part 2... Jas.

Jas represents Progression.. the sands of time in a way, the future.
As you may or may not know, the Stone of Jas is in fact the egg that would become Jas (the patterns match the egg confirmed to belong to Jas in the Halls of Freneskae.)
In essence, this is Jas sacrificing her future to assure that this world, Gielinor.. is the most perfect PERFECT world ever created by allowing her future self to become a tool that would make these things possible. Why would she do this? This pretty much dashes any and all chances of the next generation making a better world.. the objects are powerful, but full on replacements for 2 Elder Gods they are not.

So again, WHY?
I'll tell you why. Because this is the plan the Elder Gods agreed upon. They don't need to create another perfect world.. they have one already.
What I'm saying is this... The Elder Gods are planning to turn the Great Revision into the Grand Recycling. They no longer want to die off and pass on to the next generation through eggs, they want to be the end-all and the be-all forever! They want to literally recycle themselves over and over and over again.
But Progress and Potential were getting in the way. So they eliminated them.

So now, instead of leaving Gielinor to rot, here's what they will do:
With Ful (Constancy), Bik (Alteration) and Wen (Inversion), they will literally use Gielinor over and over again. Draining the Anima from it (Inversion) for themselves, allowing them to live and rule all that they see, and then reshape it (Alteration) when the time comes using their own power.. then allow the mortals to populate it until enough Anima has been generated for them, wake up and do it all over again (Constancy). A
World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
in themselves.
Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate .

16-Dec-2016 05:35:10 - Last edited on 16-Dec-2016 06:05:56 by Sepulchre

Sepulchre
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Sepulchre

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The Stone can't replace Jas, but it can strengthen the others to allow them more power, making these things possible. All the tools for creation, the Siphon, the Blade, the Measure, the Needle.. they're not replacing Jas and Mah, they're allowing the other 3 to do their jobs.. it sounds the same, but it's in a different way.


Anyway, that's my crackpot theory for the month. Comments? Questions? Insults? Random gibberish? Leave it below. A
World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
in themselves.
Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate .

16-Dec-2016 05:35:15 - Last edited on 16-Dec-2016 06:07:38 by Sepulchre

Sepulchre
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Didn't need last res.

RIP the dream boys. A
World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
in themselves.
Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate .

16-Dec-2016 05:35:23 - Last edited on 16-Dec-2016 06:07:56 by Sepulchre

Solanumtinkr

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While mortal life may corrupt Anima in some ways I'm of the opinion that something more far reaching reason made them suppress mortal life. Revision after Revision they suppressed it and Revision after Revision they slowly got weaker, until in desperation Wen turns on Mah?

The Elders each have a trait or something they realted to, could they have been suppressing Mortal life for another reason? Lets have a quick look at what each currently represents:

Ful (Constancy)
Bik (Alteration)
Wen (Inversion)
Mah (Potential)

Now what about what supressing Mortal life might have related to?

<Unknown Entity> (Intellect/Intelligence, that spark whatever you want to call it?)

What do you think? Could they the Elders have forgotten or no longer care about what they were trying to get rid of? Burning doew the forest to get rid of the squirrels! Or was it just a mistake on their behalf to supress mortals? But if they were trying to get rid of something, the real question would be did they succeed or have they compounded an original mistake? The purpose of adventure is to shine light into dark places,
Poke monsters with a sharp stick, Then steal anything that isn't nailed down!
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16-Dec-2016 06:38:01

Sepulchre
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Sepulchre

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Raleirosen said :
That sounds pretty plausible, but how does Xau-T -- I mean, the sixth Elder fit into all that? I'm not completely convinced the other Elders are even aware of the 6th Elder being "alive." A
World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
in themselves.
Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate .

16-Dec-2016 22:47:48

Sepulchre
Dec Member 2020

Sepulchre

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Raleirosen said :
That sounds pretty plausible, but how does Xau-T -- I mean, the sixth Elder fit into all that? I'm not completely convinced the other Elders are even aware of the 6th Elder being "alive." A
World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
in themselves.
Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate .

16-Dec-2016 22:47:49

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