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Nik btw

Nik btw

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Hey hey,

I find it weird, that the Praybook/overhead Symbols of the RPs are different than the ones we already have in the game. Nex and Phantom Muspah use deflect curses/wrath but the overheads of them look other than what we got.
Will that be adjusted? I find that really weird.
Also, cruors vow seems like some sort of soulsplit, why is it not named like that/ shown? Nex and muspah use it aswell.

So Id rather think one should adjust the symbols in the prayerbook/player overheads or the overheads of the bosses.

Idk if its just me, but I find that inconsistency - again - super weird.

Would be interested in your thoughts!

Cheers!

12-Apr-2023 12:37:30

Lelouch Vi B
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Lelouch Vi B

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The symbols aren’t the same because the prayers aren’t the same. If you read the effects of the new prayers, and compare them to the prayers that the NPCs you reference use, you’ll see they aren’t the same. The Bosses have much stronger variants, and thus, are not the same prayers.

And Cruor is not Soulsplit. Soul Split was a 100% chance to leech 25% of damage dealt, meaning you always healed for 25% all your DPS. Cruor is 10% chance to heal 10% of damage dealt, effectively healing for 1% of your DPS. These are very different effects and not as interchangeable as you imply. This would be like arguing that Anchovies should just be called Rocktails because they’re both food that heal, meanwhile Anchovies heal 1 HP and a Rocktail healed 24. Now with added
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12-Apr-2023 19:09:42 - Last edited on 12-Apr-2023 19:13:46 by Lelouch Vi B

Nik btw

Nik btw

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I know that, but while not the same in exact stats, theyre pretty much the same in their effects, like nerfed versions of them. Which can make sense due to the fact that the mentioned bosses couldve a closer relationship to zaros than we have, but this is pure interpretation. To put it short, the idea behind the prayers is the same.

I dont know where you read that cruors vow would be soulsplit, I just said it is a somewhat similar prayer in its effects (those are just nerfed down). I did never write that nor did I imply it, I just used it to undermine the fact that the prayers we have are similar and ... yeah, what I already wrote above.

By the way the food comparison is somewhat ridiculous by the way since there is only one type of prayer that has this effect

I think you missed my point here

12-Apr-2023 21:04:37

Lelouch Vi B
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Lelouch Vi B

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Nik btw said :
I know that, but while not the same in exact stats, theyre pretty much the same in their effects, like nerfed versions of them. Which can make sense due to the fact that the mentioned bosses couldve a closer relationship to zaros than we have, but this is pure interpretation. To put it short, the idea behind the prayers is the same.

But they’re not the same prayers. Why should they have the same symbol? The idea behind Anchovies and Rocktails are the same; they’re both food that heal. But they aren’t the same and they don’t look that same. If anything, giving them the same symbol will confuse players, as they’ll see these symbols over boss’ heads and think they know what it does, and be completely wrong, because they are NOT the same.

Nik btw said :


I dont know where you read that cruors vow would be soulsplit, I just said it is a somewhat similar prayer in its effects (those are just nerfed down). I did never write that nor did I imply it, I just used it to undermine the fact that the prayers we have are similar and ... yeah, what I already wrote above.

Nik btw said :

Also cruors vow seems like some sort of soul split, why is it not named like that/ shown?
From right here. Here where you suggest it should be called/look like soul split. It shouldn’t because it isn’t. Not even close.


Nik btw said :


By the way the food comparison is somewhat ridiculous by the way since there is only one type of prayer that has this effect

I think you missed my point here

No, you just missed mine. And yeah, there is only 1 prayer like this. That’s why it needs an analogy like food. If there were others, you wouldn’t need the analogy… That’s kind of what analogies exist for… So suggesting the analogy is invalid because it’s an analogy being used for what analogies are intended to be used for… Now with added
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13-Apr-2023 18:23:39 - Last edited on 13-Apr-2023 18:29:49 by Lelouch Vi B

Nik btw

Nik btw

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Maybe I did not clarify my point clear enough:

Take for example the DWH: it exists in both rs, it looks like it (apart from the general hd and oldschool graphic difference), it has the same name. BUT it got different stats and andifferent spec.

Or Dclaws. Same name same looks but different stats.

Take the saradomin sword. It is even obtained in a different way.

I am not saying that those Items - or the prayers - ARE the same. What I am trying to say is, that theyre the version if them we have in osrs. They are nerfed, maybe habe slightly different effects, other prerequisites and so on... but they are at least inspired from the ones in rs3.
Thats why I said it is SIMILAR to soulsplit, not that it IS soulsplit. So back to osrs only, I just used rs3 here for explanation reasons, maybe, soulsplit was the wrong example, okay I get this.

Bur take the melee mage range deflection prayers. They might not have the exact same stats but I mean, come on, even the name says it, they are more or less the deflection prayers that nex uses.. so why do we have other symbols for them? Imagine doing a nex kill and using these deflection prayers for some reason than you and the boss would use the same (more or less) prayers but it would look different.

I just find that weird and inconsistent.

Than again, this post is not me saying that it SHOULD be like I say, I just wanted to hear some opinions on that topic.

Cheers

13-Apr-2023 19:11:53

KelanTuki
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KelanTuki

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I think we should wait on the quest DT2, lore could be a big reason for the new icon's, maybe they are some variant of known prayers?
They definitely are going to get some tweaks before they come out though. Never update Draynor village willows Jagex :)

13-Apr-2023 20:42:50

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