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spoggen
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Alright so, before I get started and you all start flaming me..

1. Yes , I am a noob. I am aware of this.
2. This is my opinion only and not yours.
3. This is not me flaming leagues. Heck - I'm a fan of Jagex, the OSRS community and I love watching others playing leagues. I just think Leagues as a game mode could be so much better (for players like myself). This is why I'm posting this!

Me and my relation to OSRS:

I have been playing osrs on and off for about 10 years (mostly off, yes). I have a main with a few easy 99s and 1700 ish total, a maxed pure and a medicore ironman. I have not explored nearly all of this game. There are quests I havent done, areas I havent explored and skills I havent touched a lot. I have always been a casual.

My thoughts on leagues:

Leagues is too advanced - even for me that have some experience with this game. I can't imagine how a completly new player would feel. There is very little information given to you as a player in the game.

In leagues there are a lot of tasks that require advanced knowledge. For me, if I would want to play leagues, a majority of my time would be spent on google/osrs wiki trying to figure out what, when and how to do certain things/tasks.

I lack the feeling of being able to do what ever I want to. I want to choose my own path. I can't or don't know how to do the certain tasks/bosses/encounter or w/e = I can't progress. The idea of progressing by tasks is cool and all, but it could be made in a much more simple way.

I understand that for a lot of people who are playing osrs as their main game, leagues is fantastic - congratulations!

Of course it all depends on what Jagex want to accomplish with leagues. If the goal is to give the hardcore osrs players something they want, well then I guess it's fine. But if you want to attract new players to the game - this is not it.

TLDR: I want to be able to play the osrs temporary game modes but I feel like I can't.

20-Nov-2023 13:13:42

Tenebri
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spoggen said :


Leagues is too advanced - even for me that have some experience with this game. I can't imagine how a completly new player would feel. There is very little information given to you as a player in the game.

i wouldnt say this is for a new player.

and a new player would just log into it and just have fun with what they know. even if its literally know nothing of the game.

leagues is to just have fun, some people take it to a competitive level. but thats a few. most would log into it just to have fun. thats it

spoggen said :


Of course it all depends on what Jagex want to accomplish with leagues. If the goal is to give the hardcore osrs players something they want, well then I guess it's fine. But if you want to attract new players to the game - this is not it.



its definitely not to bring new players in.

spoggen said :


TLDR: I want to be able to play the

why not? its just the regular game with huge buffs.

i think you looking at it too deeply.
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20-Nov-2023 16:04:41 - Last edited on 20-Nov-2023 16:06:26 by Tenebri

Dilbert2001
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IM mode and all the variants are always too unfriendly for new players, and Leagues are IM modes too, so not really surprising when some regular multiplayer gamers found Leagues too "advanced".

"Of course it all depends on what Jagex want to accomplish with leagues."


Originally, I think Jagex's purpose of Leagues were competitive events. However, League 4 is hardly competitive any more as it (1) switched to a fixed points for fixed rank trophy and (2) too many game breaking bugs and exploits that favorites some players (especially existing ones who know how to take advantages of the exploits) and punish the newbies who don't know where to go and how to bypass or just abolish bugged tasks instead of wasting time on them.

TBH, I think Jagex's actual purpose of League 4 is all for the upcoming sale of the company starting probably starting next month. They are just trying to make some statistics looks good and hopefully someone will buy the company for a decent price ASAP. They probably don't care about new players, old players or future players, or bugs, exploits, fair or unfair...

"TLDR: I want to be able to play the osrs temporary game modes but I feel like I can't."


Me too, because it is too grindy and too time consuming and I have already gone through 3 Leagues and this is just a re-grinding. I can't spend 6 hours and day grinding Leagues for next 8 weeks anyway because of IRL holidays. However, this is not this Jagex think probably as long term persistent game play may be the agenda of the next Jagex some time next year, perhaps as soon as in the first quarter.

20-Nov-2023 18:02:49

Tenebri
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Jeremy Cheng said :
Agreed, I wouldn't even get lowest leagues rank prob cause it's too hard to get 2.5k points if we don't know all the intricacies of leagues.

thats why you learn it, same as everyone else

same with everything else in this game
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22-Nov-2023 20:16:26 - Last edited on 22-Nov-2023 20:17:05 by Tenebri

Dilbert2001
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Tenebri said :
Jeremy Cheng said :
Agreed, I wouldn't even get lowest leagues rank prob cause it's too hard to get 2.5k points if we don't know all the intricacies of leagues.

thats why you learn it, same as everyone else

same with everything else in this game

Players who have played the first 2 Leagues, especially League 2 which League 4 is recycled from, have already learned most of it. I would have a pretty big leg up on new players if I played League 4 this year.

As for 2.5k points, I think new players can learn to get them, if they care to be just also-rans.

24-Nov-2023 18:20:11

Bruce Waayne
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Thats just how scape is now, no person with any kind of life plays scape seriously, let alone make an ironman or try leagues, i dont even bother looking at this crap like leagues, ironman, deadman, anymore cause i know its just restarting on the same game that i already dont have enough time to progress in, jagex is a joke they already divided the community by releasing OSRS and now WAAY more people play OSRS than rs3 so its deader than its ever been, now instead of making real content and focusing on their two games they just make a method for these losers to restart again and again then they can come over with their maxed iron they wasted 10k+ hours on and try to start shit by looking up your stats.

Its not just scape though, most video games try to appeal to the sweaty loser crowd because thats pretty much the only people who consistently play video games. Its sad i miss playing games for fun and not being banned when i had to leave a game.
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24-Nov-2023 18:45:41

Tenebri
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Bruce Waayne said :
Thats just how scape is now, no person with any kind of life plays scape seriously, let alone make an ironman or try leagues, i dont even bother looking at this crap like leagues, ironman, deadman, anymore cause i know its just restarting on the same game that i already dont have enough time to progress in, jagex is a joke they already divided the community by releasing OSRS and now WAAY more people play OSRS than rs3 so its deader than its ever been, now instead of making real content and focusing on their two games they just make a method for these losers to restart again and again then they can come over with their maxed iron they wasted 10k+ hours on and try to start shit by looking up your stats.

Its not just scape though, most video games try to appeal to the sweaty loser crowd because thats pretty much the only people who consistently play video games. Its sad i miss playing games for fun and not being banned when i had to leave a game.

its just a bit fun relax lmao
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24-Nov-2023 19:36:56

Dilbert2001
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What real new MMO players will come to play solo IM in OSRS League, especially to get almost no rewards and have no progression retained after a few weeks with bots everywhere? It is not even free. There are over 9,000 better solo game with persistent progression not named OSRS. Do you think real new players will open their wallets to play OSRS Leagues? You must be kidding.

IM is not designed for new real players to start with. It is meant for players who have already played OSRS for a very long time and get bored with the game. It is meant to be something to drag their feet so they don't go to other actual real modern games.

OSRS Leagues are just not meant for new players, especially real players looking to play a classic MMO, not that it is really "advanced".

25-Nov-2023 17:11:41 - Last edited on 25-Nov-2023 17:20:50 by Dilbert2001

Dilbert2001
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Let's look at some real time, real life Leagues ranking and see how new players stack up in OSRS League 4.

Some existing OSRS players have reached 63k Leagues

https://secure.runescape.com/m=hiscore_oldschool_seasonal/overall?category_type=1

Meanwhile, a "new" player to OSRS, even among the most dedicated ones who used to be among top 50 or 100 if not 20 or 10 in RS3, who played 8-12 hours a day on stream and more hours offstream, for example the 18,083th best Maikeru, may only find themselves afterthoughts in OSRS League 4:

https://secure.runescape.com/m=hiscore_oldschool_seasonal/overall?category_type=1&table=0&user=maikeru

Now, think if you aren't the most elite and hardworking RS3 players who have played like 45 days in OSRS before Leagues... where do you think you belongs among the "advanced" OSRS players? ;)

27-Nov-2023 18:36:42

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