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Mcdizzle16
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It is a shame that players have to go to third party sites to get accurate prices for in-game items. Why are the grand exchange prices so far off for certain items? Unless you are a full time merchant, there is no other way of knowing what some obscure items are actually worth. This came to fruition when I naively trusted the game-set recommended pricing and traded a masterwork spear for some cash, bones, and a "dragon crested shoulder cape". While the trade looked good according to the price comparison, it is borderline game sanctioned scamming because the bones were way off from what they were actually selling for and the "dragon crested shoulder cape" (priced at over 79M) is only a fraction of that cost.

It would be a great fix and service to the players if something could be done about making item prices more accurate. It's incredibly disheartening to work so hard to earn money for a nox scythe then be knocked back down. I am out almost 150M now, and while that isn't a lot for most players, it is for me. Honestly, if nothing can be fixed about the system, it would be better to get rid of recommended prices altogether.

Last note, I accepted the trade and now I am facing the consequences. It is my responsibility to do the research, but where should people be looking for accurate prices? The question I have to ask myself now is, is it right to trick the next person into thinking certain items are worth more?...I am not a fan of the idea of tricking players like myself, but apparently that is using the game to your advantage.

Unrelated but funny side note: Is anyone interested in buying a "dragon crested shoulder cape" for 79m?

15-Aug-2023 20:51:53

Tenebri
Jan Member 2015

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Mcdizzle16 said :
I usually agree, but in this case it didn't even seem too good to be true, it seemed like a fairly 1 for 1 trade.


then they buy it if you werent looking to buy it? especially if it was the majority of your gp?


but to answer the question before.

the ge updates after certain amount of trades (depending on the item) if it reaches that then at a unspecified time of the day the ge updates all items that reach it, with a cap % of a change. so yeah its annoying as it does take time for items to get to correct price when they are new


but to go your title, "sanctioned" scamming. all scamming is against the rules. people will always find a way to scam. but if you come across it, report it ingame
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15-Aug-2023 21:31:43 - Last edited on 15-Aug-2023 21:39:39 by Tenebri

Mcdizzle16
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I understand that you want to defend the system, but it is clearly broken. Am I upset that I took an L on this trade?...Yes, any sane person would be. To be clear, I didn't trade cash for the junk, I traded a masterwork spear.

As I mentioned before, it was my decision to accept the trade, but if you dig a little deeper into the root of my gripe, you would see that the real problem is that I based my trade decision off of inaccurate game pricing. Why have an assigned price if it is going to be wildly off? The title is to get people thinking, and yes, it is a form of scamming when someone knowingly trades you something that is overvalued to inflate their trade. I am not a mercher, I enjoy playing the game, but things like this really screw things up.

You could say the same thing about when Necromancy came out and people were paying 11k for ashes when the GE price was like 600 gp.

The pricing system is flawed and should be revamped.

15-Aug-2023 23:19:49

Tomato 56789
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I was scammed by the buy limit scam before. The GE can definitely be frustrating, but it's also a headache for Jagex to keep the prices accurate. I believe Timbo is the mod who usually does manual price fixes but they never last long.

I don't know how difficult it would be to implement this but a good safeguard may be if the GE in-game displayed trade volumes of the item. That's already a feature on the GE page on the website.
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15-Aug-2023 23:25:04

Tenebri
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Mcdizzle16 said :
I understand that you want to defend the system, but it is clearly broken. .


im not defending anything ive just said how it works.

i even called it "annoying". thats not defending it
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15-Aug-2023 23:27:06 - Last edited on 15-Aug-2023 23:27:31 by Tenebri

Tomato 56789
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For future reference - if a player is selling items manually to the general public you can safely assume it's a scam, lol. Only exception nowadays are rares / items worth billions but that even is fading since they updated max cash limit so really unless a person is upgrading / downgrading a rare there's no reason to sell items the old fashion way.
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16-Aug-2023 00:02:08

Mcdizzle16
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I am beginning to believe you are correct, and that is also a shame. Honestly, one of the reasons I was selling my spear in person vs. the GE was to avoid the tax system. There is an incentive for sellers to market directly to people instead of on the GE for taxes alone.

16-Aug-2023 01:13:20

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