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AlchemicaLee
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Trying to get dark core thing. Tele to wildy. See old wildy warning. "huh, wonder why that is." tele to lode. Immediately skulled and pk'd. Lose grace, full attuned crystal armour (yeah, that sucks), nox bow, 2k+ ful arrows. I'm a pretty casual player, so this really freaking hurts my drive to keep playing.

Maybe i'm f'in' dumb for not realizing what was happening, But like why be skulled for having a divining item? i understand abyss skull, cause its been that way forever. Never been to wildy for cursed. just happened to have it on me cause i was getting charges on w79. seriously makes me want to vomit.

How is this a good thing? I don't know coding so i'm assuming its just hard to make it where siphoning cursed gets you skulled. Still doesnt seem fair to not have some kinda warning to say; "Hey, u'll be SKULLED with this nub."

I guess my biggest gripe is just with the pvp rework stuff, there isnt common player language used to describe the part where you get SKULLED. I don't think about "opt in". Been playing one 1 account for 17+ years and I just can't seem to imagine why jagex don't have the brains to just call it what it is. SKULLED. not opt-in. sooooo dumb to me

P.S. I don't care that i was pk'd. it's part of wildy and has been forever. i care that i was skulled for a div item.

11-Feb-2023 19:45:28

Ruby_Red0
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You are automatically skulled when you go near the big sword where the Divination thing is. You also get an ingame message where you have to either leave or agree to accept the skull.

I dont know what happened with you. I dont think you are dumb. You might have accepted just to get what you wanted without considering what you just agreed to, or maybe you are the victim of a strange game fart.

I dont think the device was the problem as much as the area. Sorry you lost the stuff, but hopefully you recoup your losses swiftly and get back at playing.
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11-Feb-2023 21:37:38 - Last edited on 11-Feb-2023 21:38:29 by Ruby_Red0

Pulseironic
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Ruby_Red0 said :
You are automatically skulled when you go near the big sword where the Divination thing is. You also get an ingame message where you have to either leave or agree to accept the skull.

I dont know what happened with you. I dont think you are dumb. You might have accepted just to get what you wanted without considering what you just agreed to, or maybe you are the victim of a strange game fart.

I dont think the device was the problem as much as the area. Sorry you lost the stuff, but hopefully you recoup your losses swiftly and get back at playing.
you dont get auto skulled for going near the sword. if you have cursed energy or a divinomatic on you you get skulled and teleblocked. its the anti bot measure thats been pretty good at wiping them out from what ive seen.

11-Feb-2023 22:02:02

Ruby_Red0
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Pulseironic said :
Ruby_Red0 said :
You are automatically skulled when you go near the big sword where the Divination thing is. You also get an ingame message where you have to either leave or agree to accept the skull.

I dont know what happened with you. I dont think you are dumb. You might have accepted just to get what you wanted without considering what you just agreed to, or maybe you are the victim of a strange game fart.

I dont think the device was the problem as much as the area. Sorry you lost the stuff, but hopefully you recoup your losses swiftly and get back at playing.
you dont get auto skulled for going near the sword. if you have cursed energy or a divinomatic on you you get skulled and teleblocked. its the anti bot measure thats been pretty good at wiping them out from what ive seen.


Well guess what? That makes it just ANOTHER example of how RWTers are more important than real live players.



I encountered it doing the Wilderness achievements to get the sword. Went back once to collect wisps.

Am I wrong about getting warned?


Had to update my siggy. I keep getting hit with example after example of how RWTers ARE the most important players in this game.
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11-Feb-2023 22:05:37 - Last edited on 11-Feb-2023 22:11:38 by Ruby_Red0

Adarajin
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It's not that RWT 'players' are more important, it's that Jagex has been forced to spend a lot more time trying to eliminate them than we like because they are such a problem. Personally, I don't think that the Divine-O-Matic Vacuum should skull you on its own, but the highly profitable energies should when you start to harvest them (whether you are charging your divine o matic directly, or gathering energies to convert) Things may be looking down now, but I see a light at the end of the tunnel;
Do you think I should get off the tracks?

12-Feb-2023 02:04:16

Pulseironic
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Adarajin said :
It's not that RWT 'players' are more important, it's that Jagex has been forced to spend a lot more time trying to eliminate them than we like because they are such a problem. Personally, I don't think that the Divine-O-Matic Vacuum should skull you on its own, but the highly profitable energies should when you start to harvest them (whether you are charging your divine o matic directly, or gathering energies to convert)
the cursed do just that, and theres little reason to go to wildy with the vacuum. just bank it and make sure youre not opted in for pvp. dont touch a cursed wisp and make sure your "attack player" option in settings is set to "hidden"

12-Feb-2023 02:39:26

Ruby_Red0
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Adarajin said :
It's not that RWT 'players' are more important, it's that Jagex has been forced to spend a lot more time trying to eliminate them than we like because they are such a problem. Personally,
I don't think that the Divine-O-Matic Vacuum should skull you on its own
, but the highly profitable energies should when you start to harvest them (whether you are charging your divine o matic directly, or gathering energies to convert)



I dont have a Divine-o-matic but I could have sworn I saw some kind of warning message when I went. I could be wrong though. Maybe Ill recheck that.

EDIT:
There is a large warning pop-up and you have to opt into harvesting there.



My feeling on RWT is this - if whatever is done harms paying players, it needs to be looked at again. If its more important to harm the bots, then bots and RWTers are logically more important than players.

RS3 is not the only game dealing with this. But it is the only game I know of that is almost obsessed with it. Makes its players obsessed with it, and causes a lot of bad feelings over it.

If there isnt a pop-up warning, and we care about our paying players, wouldnt it be a good idea to PUT a pop-up warning? Or, is momentarily thwarting an alleged bot infinately more important than looking out for the welfare of a real live player?

The Achievement Diary sends players there as part of the tasks to get the Wilderness Sword. Is it a good look to have the game setting players up for a fall if Im confused and there is no warning?

P.S. I agree with you. You shouldnt get skulled just because you have it.
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12-Feb-2023 02:45:08 - Last edited on 12-Feb-2023 03:13:18 by Ruby_Red0

Pulseironic
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you wouldnt feel the same if you saw the before times. trust me long ago you could just stand on the cursed crater edge and aoe them down for days only to see them keep coming back. the ones that had vacuums too were the best fun. its the ONLY thing now that will opt you in and you MUST AGREE to get the teleport to work. heck im not opted in to pvp and i still get annoyed by the "are you sure?" when i tele in for the evil bloodwood.

15-Feb-2023 09:48:54

Xanadeus
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You should care that you got PKed. I am literally ashamed of Jagex for this.

I was a hard core PKer from 2005 to 2007. I did it every day. I am upset at Jagex for softening the game and making it so one dimensional. I think people should stop whining and learn how to deal with adversity in life. It makes the game more interesting and exciting so I am not soft and don't tend to like soft people.

Now... in your case, you got f'ed and it's not cool.

The whole point of Jagex removing the wildy was to make this a game for babies who cannot cope with challenges, who want no loss upon death even when PVMing, people who want party hats to be affordable for everyone (essentially making them trash so nobody would even wear want one anymore) - the cosmetic participation crew.

How do you soften the wildy only to make it more dangerous than ever. Now people feel safe in the wildy so they literally take billions out there daily to do the flash events.

If I remember correctly the mechanic used to be if you were "skulled" you'd be skulled in the safe zones like Varrock too. At least this was a reminder - hey I am skulled I need to fix this before I take 2 billion into the wildy. Now is there any way to know you're skulled before you teleport out?

Okay so you do get a warning, a warning that is simply another box we have to click that we get so hypnotized that we go on autopilot and click them without truly reading and understanding them.

Basically Jagex said, hey everyone its now safe to play in the wildy, take your purple party hats out there and nobody can do anything about it. Oops we forgot to warn you that you are skulled even though you're walking around for the last several hours without a skull. Hey, Evil Tree in 2 minutes you better hurry. I'll be right there, I'm just doing a boss with 5 billion in gear on.

Click on wildy lodestone. WTF? Who is this dummy skulled in the wildy? Oh that's me? What? No, can't be. Dead.

23-Feb-2023 13:39:44

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