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Nathmatics
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Literally just some questions I was curious about, and wondered if some things were canon and maybe generate some discussion.

Q1: Is smoking canon? I ask this as Hookah artifacts can be found in the Zamorakian site when digging. What's your argument, both for and against? Would there be social stigma related to smoking?

Q2: Would Yaks be a fairly common sight on the roads of Gielinor?

Q3: What real-life accents would each region of Gielinor have, I've previously heard that Kandarin has accents similar to french, Misthalin has a british "brummy" accent and Asgarnia has a more standard-english sounding twang.

Q4: How long would it take to travel on-foot to places? Vague I know, but would it take days to travel from West Varrock to Falador's northern entrance, or would it take longer/shorter?

Q5: What income brackets are there based on money generally speaking? I understand the world guardian is and can potentially be a billionaire, but what in a roleplay setting 10 coins buy you, some bread?

Q6: TBC

To be honest, Q1 is the main thing I want to know about, but will add more questions as time progresses.


In any case. Hope you all are doing okay during this pandemic, stay safe.
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01-Aug-2020 15:42:02 - Last edited on 04-Aug-2020 00:24:01 by Nathmatics

Quael
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Nathmatics said :

Q1: Is smoking canon? I ask this as Hookah artifacts can be found in the Zamorakian site when digging. What's your argument, both for and against? Would there be social stigma related to smoking?

I would assume smoking is canon to a degree, like pipes and such. Cigars also as some Goblins are known to have it on them also. Not everyone would do it, but possibly the rich, or some small group could do it.

I don't think there would be any Social Stigma, aside from the smell of it. But it's not something that would be done a lot, unless celebration are made, or a Hookah is used for relaxation.

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Q2: Would Yaks be a fairly common sight on the roads of Gielinor?


I would think so, yes. Yaks, and cows. Not too common, but common enough to have them be a source of wagon pulling or supplies holder for Adventurers or travelers. So fairly common is the best way to address it.
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01-Aug-2020 16:51:22

RiDaku
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First, questions like these I feel would be best-placed in one of the two stickied guide threads to save on threads that run similar to "I have a question" "I have an answer" "Ok thanks!", but let's see here..

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Q1: Is smoking canon? I ask this as Hookah artifacts can be found in the Zamorakian site when digging. What's your argument, both for and against? Would there be social stigma related to smoking?

Yes. Smoking tobacco and various different herbs have been in the game for a while, and RPers especially have used 'dwarf weed' as the RS equivalent of marijuana (even if that may not be what it is, I don't think it's been confirmed either way.) RS is very lax when it comes to regulations, so smoking probably wouldn't be frowned on socially.

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Q2: Would Yaks be a fairly common sight on the roads of Gielinor?

Agree with Advent.

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Q3: What real-life accents would each region of Gielinor have, I've previously heard that Kandarin has accents similar to french, Misthalin has a british "brummy" accent and Asgarnia has a more standard-english sounding twang.

You're pretty much spot-on with that. In fact I think it was me that told you those before. Also, Camelot like has a very posh british accent due to the whole ties-to-england thing. I'd, personally? See Misthalin as more american in inspiration. Though the whole romeo-and-juliet reference sourcing from there does lead to more english vibes....

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Q4: How long would it take to travel on-foot to places? Vague I know, but would it take days to travel from West Varrock to Falador's northern entrance, or would it take longer/shorter?

I believe that the Churchill books covered this very well. Travelling from Falador to Edgeville Monastery took well over a week and I believe that was with horses accompanying them. Distance in Gielinor is far, far broader than in the Runescape game.
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01-Aug-2020 22:31:04

Quael
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Nathmatics said :


Q3: What real-life accents would each region of Gielinor have, I've previously heard that Kandarin has accents similar to french, Misthalin has a british "brummy" accent and Asgarnia has a more standard-english sounding twang.

Q4: How long would it take to travel on-foot to places? Vague I know, but would it take days to travel from West Varrock to Falador's northern entrance, or would it take longer/shorter?


Huh, I recall you only had the first two questions asked, didn't know you added two more.

Q3: I believe you're right there also, the accents aren't really focused on Gielinor as much for us to know, but it is stated by the Jmods that they would label Kandarin with a French accent. Obviously Wushanko would have a Asian accent, Morytania would be Greek/ Transylvania. Can't say what's what for sure.

Q4: Yes, the Churchill book does state that there are about a total of a week of travel (or more) from Falador to Taverly, Edgvile, and I think Port Sarim also? But there are several Jmods that have stated that the book isn't entirely accurate on the distance in travel (or they don't think it is that far as the book states.) So the book is a good example for travel distance, but shouldn't be seen as extremely accurate. If you think the book is a better example to travel, then go for it. I loosely follow the book's statement, but not entirely.

But by foot, It would probably take about, half a Gielinorian month, or two(maybe more) to reach a location on foot, if it is as far as Falador and Varrock, or Lumbridge. (I use my own method of calculating that involves a Map.)
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02-Aug-2020 00:31:45

Dansplainer
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Nathmatics said :

Q1: Is smoking canon? I ask this as Hookah artifacts can be found in the Zamorakian site when digging. What's your argument, both for and against? Would there be social stigma related to smoking?

Q2: Would Yaks be a fairly common sight on the roads of Gielinor?

Q3: What real-life accents would each region of Gielinor have, I've previously heard that Kandarin has accents similar to french, Misthalin has a british "brummy" accent and Asgarnia has a more standard-english sounding twang.

Q4: How long would it take to travel on-foot to places? Vague I know, but would it take days to travel from West Varrock to Falador's northern entrance, or would it take longer/shorter?


A1: As mentioned above, smoking is definitely canon to RS lore, though I am not sure tobacco actually exists within the story universe, it is certainly implied in some way. Of course roleplayers have taken artistic license in acknowledging its existence anyway, or using other ingredients such as dwarf weed or something other as an alternative to the real-world's tobacco. As there is clear evidence of smoking in canon, I do not have a tangible argument against it. I also doubt there is a social stigma against smoking, though I do know that characters: do smoke, do not like smoking or smokers, do not care either way, and there are certainly a plethora of other opinions on the subject for any individual to have. It's, ultimately, up to the roleplayer to decide.

A2: I do not know if I could answer this directly; it certainly is possible that during the Runecrafting Crusades, Fremennik raiders brought with them their specific livestock, however there is really no evidence to suggest they are native only to the Fremennik lands or even just Neitiznot itself. This is really a matter of perspective, as well.

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02-Aug-2020 07:01:16

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A3: This is a good question and it does not have a straight answer. The closest we have in canon to determining what the people of Kandarin may sound like is that one time a JMod mentioned that they thought that Ardougne's architecture, and its name (such as its pronunciation in particular,) had French inspirations. This would give us some guidance towards what their accent sounds like, but again we have usually taken creative liberties and assumed that all of Kandarin has some variation of French or Anglo-French accent, and in some cases even its own native language besides Common which is basically just the modern French language.

Additionally, the Fremennik have been given sort of a Germanic/Norse theme, the Kharidians have been given Arabic inspirations (excepting Menaphos, which is usually given Ancient Egyptian themes), Morytania is generally considered a general form of Slavic culture, especially in the case of the vampyres and werewolves, and usually Misthalin and Asgarnia are something like Anglo-Saxon, though I personally favor Varrock to be something like vaguely Frisian. Personally, I acknowledge the liberties taken in RSRP canon, but it is really up to you.

A4: I'll agree with the references to the novels above, which have been approved as 100% canon at this point.
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02-Aug-2020 07:01:24 - Last edited on 02-Aug-2020 07:27:42 by Dansplainer

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Nathmatics said :

Obviously Wushanko would have a Asian accent,


To speak on this point, I would say that generally this is correct, though, I think it's a tad more specific to say it has references to various medieval and ancient Asian cultures, including but not limited to: Chinese, Japanese, and Mongolian concepts. The Wushanko Isles also have, in my own opinion, prominent inspirations from the cultures of the Pacific Islands in real-life, such as the Maori, and Polynesians in general, as in the existence of Moai, the giant stone head figures that you can speak to, and the concept of a predominantly seafaring people inhabiting strings of islands. Generally, though, people would usually refer to medieval Japanese history for inspiration in RSRP.
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02-Aug-2020 07:42:01 - Last edited on 02-Aug-2020 07:52:21 by Dansplainer

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RiDaku said :

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Q3: What real-life accents would each region of Gielinor have, I've previously heard that Kandarin has accents similar to french, Misthalin has a british "brummy" accent and Asgarnia has a more standard-english sounding twang.

You're pretty much spot-on with that. In fact I think it was me that told you those before. Also, Camelot like has a very posh british accent due to the whole ties-to-england thing. I'd, personally? See Misthalin as more american in inspiration. Though the whole romeo-and-juliet reference sourcing from there does lead to more english vibes....

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Q4: How long would it take to travel on-foot to places? Vague I know, but would it take days to travel from West Varrock to Falador's northern entrance, or would it take longer/shorter?

I believe that the Churchill books covered this very well. Travelling from Falador to Edgeville Monastery took well over a week and I believe that was with horses accompanying them. Distance in Gielinor is far, far broader than in the Runescape game.

Yes you can clearly tell Misthalin is inspired by America with their guns and cheeseburgers, very astute observation. Also the author's name is T.S. Church and not "Churchill."

Also do mahjarrat fart?
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02-Aug-2020 08:18:28

Nathmatics
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Please don't needlessly attack and goad each other, that is what I do not wish here. Please lay aside your squabbles and just stick to the topic.

Thank you for understanding and respecting my request.

Also I have a couple more questions, listed up above.
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04-Aug-2020 00:24:13

RiDaku
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Nathmatics said :
Q5: What income brackets are there based on money generally speaking? I understand the world guardian is and can potentially be a billionaire, but what in a roleplay setting 10 coins buy you, some bread?


A pint of asgarnian ale is always 2gp, and I think that sets the standard for what food and drink will cost you. Bread may be 3gp, a meal could be 6-8gp from your local tavern, and buying your own cow could cost you 100gp-200gp.

That being said, money is a fucking mess. I had a plan once upon a time to create an actual economy for Asgarnia, inspired after I went back through old documents and records and calculated a single source of income for Jeoffrey over the past few years (turns out he has 3,358,800gp stashed for a rainy day), but then I realized.. holy shit, why? Money is entirely arbitrary in RP, and even moreso in runescape lore. Unless your character's intentionally going through a broke/poverty storyline, they'll generally just have whatever money they need to buy whatever they like. Obviously exceptions arise like a farmer couldn't go to Brock Avery and get a full set of runite armor, but calculating economies and that just isn't worth it.

P.S. Fuck the Tibby(WoW) System. Why did we ever need to overcomplicate things by adding 100 bronze = 1 silver, 10 silver = 1 gold, that was ridiculous.
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