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I've been following the prices of the Fractured Staff of Armadyl and its components, reported from various sources. It's come to my attention that, for the past couple of weeks, the prices of individual components (as reported) consistently sum up to more than the price of the staff, and this margin is increasing.

What gives? Is this a question of very low supply? Are parts more sought after than the weapon itself? Why haven't we seen any movement of the staff's price lately? Is the player-to-player market simply slow to react to latest GE trades? It's hard to believe someone is assembling those at a loss.

Since the end of August, the staff has been stable at about 5b, while its components have been steadily rising towards a combined sum of 6b.

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07-Sep-2021 19:06:11

J R Kerr
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oh thats easy. people pay more for the piece theyre missing if they got 1 or 2 from kpac. impulses.

buyer's remorse means ppl letting go of it for less, but... kinda unwise since we have seen all the big items get scarce after all of us trim types get 100 kc for final boss and move on. like... I bought ECB at 1.2 or so, and then sold ea piece I collected for way way more, and ECB is way over max cash now. so will that happen to FSOA? yeah probably.

same thing happen to glaeswords too, but... I didnt say anything like that in other thread cause this forum... the definition of "price fixing" is ignored, but they do seem to mod "speculating" more.

idek if thats true for inq staff but it should be... we all got 1 piece for free, so it should be true GE sells complete staff at less than ea piece combined, right?

edit/add: and I do mean to highlight inq staff cause its soooo good, always works, changes affinity unlike hex/maul, uses 4 for every 5 runes, uses less charges, and its existence will probably have a calming effect on the volatile price of items that get scarce. like... there is -zero- shame in using inq staff. veblen goods be damned. I got my own fsoa, timeweaver title, dyed it barrows, and love it, so... I'm sad if I don't have it equipped where I can stare at it all the time, but... I'll never never say disparaging to anyone maging with... honestly... a lot of mage weapons have good uses.

1. virtus wand - godmarked
2. elite kiba - so DIY
3. camel - savin money on fire runes
4. st darkness - savin money on all runes
5. limitless air - savin tons of money
6. inq staff - specless, but >20% discount for maging (runes and charges)

but for dps fsoa spec, tendrils, biting 4 etc is tip top. thats maxmaxing.
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07-Sep-2021 20:26:19 - Last edited on 07-Sep-2021 20:40:03 by J R Kerr

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armadyl battlestaff
vs
fractured staff of armadyl

so... when glacors were new and I wanted boots... I collected shards, and I sold the first THREE abs that I made. I liked the staff, but, iirc, I was using polypore (before eoc) and had lots and lots of supplies for them after like 800 hrs of ganodermics. iirc they were affinity weak to fire, not air, too, so I felt like I was using best tool for the job to get boots.

fsoa killed a god
. thats how guthix died.

so I gathered parts to make and keep my first fsoa (dyed it too). thats a really big difference. I know I'm not alone. lots of us made our own and kept the first one cause we know its truly endgame.
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07-Sep-2021 20:48:22 - Last edited on 14-Sep-2021 06:15:37 by J R Kerr

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I was trading t95 staffs pretty much from release date - both on GE flipping the pieces, as well as street trading the full staff. I've stopped trading them recently, mainly due to noticing this price trend too.

There were many times when the delta between these two values were really large - and I think it's usually situational. Currently if I had to guess what's causing it, I think it's the combination of these factors making price of full staffs on W2 lower than the GE:

1) Many PvMers have suddenly shifted away from Kerapac to Arch-Glacor, resulting in a sudden drop in supply of staff pieces coming into the GE
2) Demand for the staff has remained consistent/ strong, since magic is quite viable at the new boss, and combinations of using the staff + greater conc + the channeler's ring have been found to be very effective
3) There are 'full staffs' that people are willing to exchange/ sell/ trade around already in the game, and it's a one way process of converting pieces to staffs
4) People constantly flipping on the GE stabilise prices, even if prices don't make sense (Assembling at a loss)

I think the third point is a key reason why the staffs haven't followed the price of GE components and the same can be seen with ECB recently.

As an example a few weeks ago, where the t95 staff was going to be reworked a lot of players, anticipating a positive rework, bought into it. At the announcement of the rework - there were a LOT of players selling the staff and while the GE value of the staff was hovering around 4.1b, it was very hard to sell the full staff even at 3.8-3.9b. Similarly, near the release of the staff - it was possible to assemble a staff from GE and sell it for a profit since demand was so high.

I don't think the fact that there is a difference between GE components and the street value price is abnormal though. I think eventually these two values tend to converge - either by pieces moving towards street price, or street towards GE price.

08-Sep-2021 01:04:56 - Last edited on 08-Sep-2021 01:06:24 by B o

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To add on another example from a few weeks ago at the end of August, a friend of mine pointed out the price of the staff in GE was going up significantly - to over ~4.5b to buy the pieces.

At the time, it was possible to buy full staffs much cheaper - I think it's just because the market for person-to-person trades seems to lag behind GE prices sometimes. I bought 3 full staffs at 4b, 4b, and 4.3b each, and my friend did the exact same, since we were anticipating the street price would eventually catch up to the GE values.

The incoming release of the new boss made us a little more confident that there would be more chance of the prices going up as less people farmed Kerapac. A few days after we bought - what we speculated came true, and we were later able to sell all the staffs we bought in the range of 4.6-4.8b, around what the GE values were at.

Right now, I wouldn't want to attempt that type of trade again even though there's a mismatch in prices - I personally feel the staff is quite high in price, and I don't fully understand why the prices of the pieces in the GE are still so high/ increased (can only make educated guesses). It's always sort of hard to speculate how prices will change

08-Sep-2021 01:36:10 - Last edited on 08-Sep-2021 01:45:16 by B o

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I started looking at SoA after the update 3 weeks ago. It fell to 3.3b lowest when people thought it got nerfed hard. The very same day Evil Lucario and The RS Guy were streaming testing SoA. Both of them were outright destroying all their old PRs at various bosses. That itself made me thought there is no way it will stay at 3.3b. True enough after a couple of hours it went up to 3.6b, I got 1 at that price for my own usage.

I continue to monitor its prices and started flipping it through GE and w2. Initially GE NIB was cheaper than w2 which was a nice profit. 1 thing that made it profitable at that point of time was uncertainty about its price.

1) Pieces are very rare at 1/800? So supply is very low even on GE.
2) Most people who are buying it for personal usage don't have extra 10-15b lying around to price check it so they would never risk INB'ing one that might be very overpriced. I would say most pvmers would not INB a piece then wait for it NIS and then NIB another one at a cheaper price. Prices were very volatile at that point of time as well. People who saw it dropped to 3.3 might be thinking it might drop back to 3.3 and held back.

Also at that point of time, with how strong it is, it was potentially BIS at Arch Glacor before its release. So that was probably another reason it kept going up.

Other people have also pointed out with Arch Glacor's release, Kerapac would be empty. That was part of my speculation too which came true.

Moving forward, I would predict prices on GE and street would slowly correct with each other. Either street SoA would be more expensive to match GE or vice versa.

08-Sep-2021 08:46:08 - Last edited on 08-Sep-2021 09:09:11 by Centlon

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