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aqarwaen
Sep Member 2009

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i wonder if true magic in runescape universe exist,where you dont need runes to cast??
is chanche jagex adding news spells what dont require any runes to cast??for example you would only high magic and runecraft to do it....

15-Jul-2022 19:11:04

Pulseironic
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if i remember right from a lore point ALL magic is rune based, even the stuff sara and zammy are slinging around. the planet is super special for having the catalyst sitting around so long making essence really easy to find and the altars were made to push into the runespan where the energies of the runes collects. to use "true magic" youd have to tap directly into the span and that would be dangerous or take god levels of power. we only just figured out how to take one down, we arent close to that level of power yet.

if runecrafting or magic goes to 120 though, well wouldnt be a bad addition to give them content.

16-Jul-2022 08:19:58

aqarwaen
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Pulseironic said :
if i remember right from a lore point ALL magic is rune based, even the stuff sara and zammy are slinging around. the planet is super special for having the catalyst sitting around so long making essence really easy to find and the altars were made to push into the runespan where the energies of the runes collects. to use "true magic" youd have to tap directly into the span and that would be dangerous or take god levels of power. we only just figured out how to take one down, we arent close to that level of power yet.

if runecrafting or magic goes to 120 though, well wouldnt be a bad addition to give them content.


but then we defeat powefull mage enemies,they newer drop any runes.this makes me ask where they get their runes to cast magic attacks

16-Jul-2022 12:56:03 - Last edited on 18-Jul-2022 19:22:04 by aqarwaen

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This is more of a "lore" question.

The basic issue is that races such as the Mahjarrat, Demons, and the Gorajo Stormbringers have wells of energy for them to tap into allowing them to cast without the need for runes.
Races such as Humans need runes because the majority of humans don't have that well of power in them. A perfect example is Kenneth from the Sea Slug quest series who was born with such a well of power. Similarly Safalaan is half human and half Icyene which similarly grants him some magical ability without the use of runes.

Normally, you would chalk up a creature in game carrying runes as a drop to the need from devs for something to add to a drop table.
Waterfiends for example always drop at least 1 water rune. Lesser/Greater Demons drop Fire Runes. A partial explanation could be that for creatures with that well of magic drop a rune that resonates with their Runescape (yes, this is a canonical thing ...) in their death throes. The energy focuses itself and a few runes drop down.
The other mundane explanations are that the runes were hold overs from adventurers that died to the creature or the creatures have them for some use in the event they get a little tired.

17-Jul-2022 14:41:42

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The player can do limited amounts of runeless magic.
Combat abilities for magic are the first example. Granted, you need runes in your inventory ... but .. .you don't expend them when you use abilities.
Certain teleports don't require runes. Though true, that excluding teleports tied to items/jewelry, you are typically teleporting to a per-determined location.

17-Jul-2022 14:44:04

Draco Burnz
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Dilbert2001 said :
Loadestone teleport requires absolutely no runes to cast. Runeless magic exist for a long time already


Exactly.

So with this, i wonder how we're able to cast the "spells" for said teleports if we dont need runes and humans dont have "wells of energy"?
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17-Jul-2022 19:00:07

Dilbert2001
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Draco Burnz said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Loadestone teleport requires absolutely no runes to cast. Runeless magic exist for a long time already


Exactly.

So with this, i wonder how we're able to cast the "spells" for said teleports if we dont need runes and humans dont have "wells of energy"?


Magic runes are just catalysts. They are something that help us focus and channel our inner energies to cast the spells. Some creatures that can focus much better than humans (e.g. Elder Gods) may not need runes to cast a spell just like some people don't need to carry a pole to walk a tightrope.

17-Jul-2022 19:43:01

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