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WildPikachu
Apr Member 2023

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Jagex should really not try to force PvM and bossing onto it's player base. It doesnt matter if it combat related skill doing high lvl slayer and bossing isn't and shouldnt be required to train a skill. It's ok make item related come from those source for player that do enjoy high lvl monsters/bossing, but it tradable items. Dragon mattock and hatchet from their source, other example too i imagine just to sleepy to think of em. issue is making item need one that is untradable. Forcing bossing, as if dont like bossing you could buy it...yet it untradable.

29-Jun-2023 20:56:34 - Last edited on 29-Jun-2023 20:56:46 by WildPikachu

Dilbert2001
Jun Member 2006

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If you don't like pvm and bossing, nobody forces you to train Necromancy in RS3 just like nobody forces you to train melee, magic and ranged in RS3.

Necromancy drops Necromancy gear. There aren't even skilling specific tools like Dragon Hatchets locked behind it.

30-Jun-2023 01:07:37

Mini JIT
Oct Member 2014

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It's not needed. The list is just there with items that will help you out, if you have managed to level your other combat stats without the 3 other capes then you can live without the 4th cape. Just like you won't need the level 99 prayer codex (yes, I know that's tradeable)

You can level the whole skill without any combat by the looks of it.

Also, not a recent game update as the skills is not even out yet.

30-Jun-2023 05:18:54

DiaboMalandr

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Couldn't agree more. Jagex recent obsession with bossing violates both the first rule of gaming (games are supposed to be fun) and one of the rules of business (The customer is always right).

If they have to force bossing down people throats by only allowing something important to be obtained through bossing then they're definitely doing it wrong.

[minor edit]
Just not to be too negative and if Jagex wants to promote bossing, why not make combat more better right now I can't think of any other game that has a worst combat system than runescape.

Jagex has done something right in the past, like when Jagex multiplied damage and HP so that people wouldn't get zero damage, because zeros aren't fun,, that was a good change.
Unfortunately they then changed combat where damage gets completely blocked because of defense, because zeros aren't... oh wait... :(

Diablo II was released 23 years ago, and League of Legends 14 years ago, I don't consider the combat in those games amazing, but both far surpass runescape combat. Maybe take a hint from other games?

At this point it doesn't really surprise me Old Schol remains so popular despite it's aged graphics and restricted content, seems like Jagex is only good at making bad decisions.

30-Jun-2023 08:41:44 - Last edited on 30-Jun-2023 09:03:12 by DiaboMalandr

Killashandra
Dec Member 2005

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You'll never get people who PvM to agree but it definitely grieves me when something that I 'might' need is behind some PvM that I will never be able to do.

I've had a look at the suggested requirements for TzKal-Zuk without checkpoints/dying and I know that I'll never be able to do it. With minimum/intermediate magic, I'd struggle to kill him and I don't have the equipment for advanced magic (same for range).

However, the alternative, to make the stone tradeable, would be equally hard for me as it would probably cost far too much.

It's hard enough levelling anything nowadays without Jagex putting useful equipment behind PvM that the majority of players won't do.

Yes, I've said the majority of players and Jagex know this because they've done enough checking to know which players do high level PvM and how many/what percentage of players actually do take part in it.

30-Jun-2023 11:28:30

Jeremy Cheng
Aug Member 2013

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It might seem like it isn't truly required but I bet igneous stone will be added to a important unlock in the skill that can't be substituted with anything else, locking large portion of the playerbase from completing content unlike arch where the requirements are more fair. You know this will be the case.

30-Jun-2023 11:57:52

Roddy Piper
Jan Member 2011

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I think they already explained it is used to make a Zuk cape for Necromancy, which is required to make the hybrid cape. Zuk capes are already considered as a standard requirement, so anyone who can't deal with it is automatically at a disadvantage.

I have accepted it is just beyond my ability. Not to do it, but to perform under those conditions. There is too much happening, too much to remember, too much noise, too much visual clutter, and too little time. The phases change quickly which should make it easier in a way, but it's difficult to recover from a mistake and react to the next phase.

30-Jun-2023 12:31:24

ShallPrevail
May Member 2023

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If you don't PVM or boss, what in the world do you do on RS3? Not defending Jagex here, I agree with you to a large extent but this game surely does not support any good environment that isn't relatable to PVMing or Bossing and even that is semi good.



I'm going to assume Jagex is pressuring players into a PVM/bossing environment so that if there are any new players or players coming from OSRS, Jagex can than try to lure them into their PVM riddled RS3 game.... or should i say PVMscape.

Jagex is also trying to make this new skill release bigger than what it should be, and there's only so much they can do to make it seem big so adding PVM/bossing encounters was pretty much needed for them to continue to overhype the situation.
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30-Jun-2023 18:16:42 - Last edited on 30-Jun-2023 18:17:14 by ShallPrevail

Dilbert2001
Jun Member 2006

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I doubt we will even have just a Zuk reference in any Necromancy content. No reason to think of anything Zuk in an undead themed content. Even the most hardcore pvmers don't care about Zuk capes anyway. Why should ones who "don't like bossing" even care about Igneous Stone?

30-Jun-2023 18:40:25

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