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PapaTyphon
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I know this topic has been bounced around a lot and even shelved for the foreseeable future (for reasons I don't quite understand) but let me offer a quick solution...

Instead of going through the trouble of waiting until the the clan system for OSRS is complete to test out GIM, how about using the perfectly fine Clan System we already have? After a few minor tweaks of course.

I don't know how Jagex has their code labeled but assuming they have it laid out in a logical, non-spaghetti fashion it should be fairly easy to copy the entire system and cut out components they don't need and even add in a new one using a system already in use.


My solution?

1) Copy over the entire Clan and Citadel system and edit out all the skilling areas.

2) Create a new Citadel layout (I call it a Clan Hub) that is basically the Max guild in Priff.

3) Create a Clan Bank system in which members of the clan can freely deposit and withdraw items.

4) Enable Ironman trading within the Clan Hub.

5) Add an option when creating a Clan that says "Group Ironman" with the obligatory warning that the max guild size will be capped at 5.

6) Add a requirement that new Ironman can only join a GIM clan within 12 hours of account creation.

7) Remove the ability to "kick" clan members.

8) Remove the ability to leave the clan immediately, make the account wait 7 days with a notice that entering the Clan Hub within those 7 days will cancel the request to leave. (This will hopefully lessen the grief hackers can inflict.

9) Test the system with a handful of groups to test for game breaking bugs.

10) Release it to the wolves.



Again, I fail to understand why we need to wait for OSRS, a fundamentally different game that is far behind the ever expanding RS3.

05-Jan-2021 00:58:29

Dilbert2001
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I really don't think so as the idea of the Group Ironman project is to develop reusable tools for all Runescape Franchise games. They aren't "waiting for OSRS" just like the other new Jagex games in the making aren't "waiting for OSRS".

That said, if the OSRS Ironman project failed to deliver tools good for all the Runescape Franchise games, RS3 may not be working on Group Ironman itself as the game is not designed just to support Ironman, which is just a game mode. RS3 is not going to devote the game to specific game modes like Ironman, Legacy or Pures. It is a game designed for the General Public who want varieties.

05-Jan-2021 16:21:08

Dilbert2001
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PapaTyphon said :
And yet they created the ironman game mode and have even created instances unique to those playing the mode

They created the Legacy game mode too but it certainly doesn't mean they have to make updates all catered to the Legacy game mode.

A game mode is an optional alternative way, not a necessary way, to play the game.

06-Jan-2021 15:58:30

PapaTyphon
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[quote id=16-17-137-66196735-3-346180627][quote id=16-17-137-66196735-2-346179859] A game mode is an optional alternative way, not a necessary way, to play the game.[/quote] Kinda like Group Ironman would be? Literally just an Ironman gamemode you can play with friends and help each other out?

07-Jan-2021 08:43:49

Animism
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As a returning player to OSRS/RS3, having already completed the nostalgia feeling of the game we lost in 2012 and played an Ironman to a high level in OSRS, I returned to RS3 a few months ago and am really starting to enjoy the game. I have continued on my pre-2012 main account and even achieved 99 divination on a hardcore ironman.

Few points - Combat system was difficult to adjust to, but more fun once understood.
The economy is more messy than OSRS.
The general experience in RS3 is a lot more enjoyable day-to-day.

What do I want? I used to think it was GIM on OSRS - now I'm sincerely eager to start anew as an ironman on RS3, dragging as many friends as I can with me to experience RS3 in its glory (many of which have stated they would play this mode on RS3, with direct reasons such as avoidance of MTX, Market worries and diminished rewards for certain content).

Can this update be any sooner? I lost incentive to continue playing my RS3 Ironman in light of GIM, which should be kept in mind by Jagex as to potentially perceived disinterest in GIM.

22-Jan-2021 17:38:05 - Last edited on 22-Jan-2021 17:42:10 by Animism

Dilbert2001
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Animism said :

What do I want? I used to think it was GIM on OSRS - now I'm sincerely eager to start anew as an ironman on RS3, dragging as many friends as I can with me to experience RS3 in its glory (many of which have stated they would play this mode on RS3, with direct reasons such as avoidance of MTX, Market worries and diminished rewards for certain content).


Ironman can already group in RS3 so they don't need the barebone GIM OSRS is working on now, thanks to Lootshare and Coinshare.

I believe what RS3 and Jagex's other new games were interested in the originally proposed Clan and GIM systems by ex-OSRS-Mod Mat K. However, Clan and GIM works have been nerfed and nerfed and nerfed to the point the current system they revealed (at least the Clan one) perhaps don't improve RS3 and the new games anymore. As such, I believe that's why RS3 rather focus their engine works on Mobile. :)

You should not have lost to an ironman in 2012 because the IM mode wasn't released before 2013.

If you want to drag your friends to group in IM mode in RS3, feel free to do so NOW because you can and no need to wait for OSRS GIM which seemingly is only at best the same lootshare and coinshare instance which has been in RS3 for years and of course minus the Clan Citadel and Group benefits in OSRS. :)

22-Jan-2021 20:11:15 - Last edited on 22-Jan-2021 20:32:45 by Dilbert2001

teampertti

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make the real game mode RS3 groupironman.
those hwo are against the game mode dont play it.(its that easy)
Let the people have there mode they want.
and stop saying that ironman already can group this is not correct.
You can leech your way if you play with hicher lvl ironman to kill bosses thats all.
You should not be able to do that with groupironman. i want groupironman

23-Mar-2022 07:41:00

Dilbert2001
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teampertti said :
make the real game mode RS3 groupironman.
those hwo are against the game mode dont play it.(its that easy)
Let the people have there mode they want.
and stop saying that ironman already can group this is not correct.
You can leech your way if you play with hicher lvl ironman to kill bosses thats all.
You should not be able to do that with groupironman.

RS3 may let IM group in Dungeoneering, but they won't have shared bank and such nonsense that caused a lot of OSRS downtime and fairness problems.

Seeing how GIM failed badly in OSRS, there is really no reason why we need it in RS3.

23-Mar-2022 18:41:15

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