RuneScape Forum Archive | King Vallance of Asgarnia

Jan

2007

Ian Adler

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Could we return to the Unfinished Business project and finally reveal what happened to
King Vallance of Asgarnia
?

You have been slowly building up the conflict in Asgarnia – much like as was done with Zaros – for over a decade and we have reached the point where there are multiple story strands all begging to be at last tied together:

1. During the Invasion of Falador , a mini-quest led us to the Spirit of Farradorn, one who named herself the Spirit of the Kingdom of Asgarnia and holds the True Banner of Farradorn and bears some unknown connection to King Raddallin - the Kingdom's founder. She said calls us "One who is not Chosen," says "When the Chosen One comes, she will take up the Banner and lead Falador and Asgarnia to its destiny" and "Yet I see you being influential in this kingdom's future, nonetheless." Ending with "As such, though I cannot allow you to take the true Banner, I can give you its blessing, and let you bear its resemblance..." (i.e. the cosmetic version).

2. What happened to King Vallance of Asgarnia? Is he really just old and sick, or is Sir Amik Varze a usurper? And if the White Knights are usurpers, why did the Temple Knights not intervene and put Crown Prince Anlaf on the throne?
* The instability between the White and Black Knights has long been a cornerstone in the game, augmented by Quests that relate to Burthope and the Temple Knights, to say nothing of the story of Kara-Meir (who has been speculated to be the Chosen One).
* We even have the Lost sword of King Raddallin, which Darla - from the Invasion - says had better stay lost so as to prevent Civil War.

Again, you of Jagex have been toying with the disharmonious politics of Asgarnia since the walls of Falador were first erected, making it unfinished business in every sense of the term and, possible, th

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09-Jan-2019 19:41:29 - Last edited on 30-Apr-2020 03:45:52 by Ian Adler

Jan

2007

Ian Adler

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During the Invasion of Falador, a mini-quest led us to the Spirit of Farradorn , one who named herself the Spirit of the Kingdom of Asgarnia and holds the

True Banner of Farradorn

and bears some unknown connection to King Raddallin - the Kingdom's founder.
She said calls us "One who is not Chosen," says "When the
Chosen One
comes,
she will take up the Banner and lead Falador and Asgarnia to its destiny
" and "Yet I see you being influential in this kingdom's future, nonetheless." Ending with "As such, though I cannot allow you to take the true Banner, I can give you its blessing, and let you bear its resemblance..." (i.e. the cosmetic version).
We even have the Lost sword of King Raddallin, which Darla - from the Invasion - says had better stay lost so as to prevent Civil War: "Th-this can't be right! We knew Raddallin and Valzin [the first Lord of the Kinshra] were associates at the beginning of his reign but this suggests that even at the end they were still friends. This just can't be! The people of Falador, the White Knights, none of them are ready to hear this... This will change history, and who knows what will happen next. Just look at the fighting that's happening right now. If we allow the Black Knights to be legitimised then this whole region could fall into a new civil war."

Jagex has been toying with the disharmonious politics of Asgarnia since the walls of Falador were first erected, and I think it is time we settled this latest and other issues, for I foresee that the Chosen One of Asgarnia as the beginning a great story.

Saradominist

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emeritus
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My third is to

Tumeken

and the bloodline of Senliten.

09-Jan-2019 19:41:55

Jan

2007

Ian Adler

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Indeed, this Chosen One story of theirs touches upon some of RuneScape's oldest mysteries:

What happened to King Vallance of Asgarnia? Is he really just old and sick, or is Sir Amik Varze a usurper? And if the White Knights are usurpers, why did the Temple Knights not intervene and put Crown Prince Anlaf on the throne?

The instability between the White and Black Knights has long been a cornerstone in the game, augmented by Quests that relate to Burthope and the Temple Knights, to say nothing of the story of

Kara-Meir

(who has been speculated to be the Chosen One).

I really think, even if they do not say so, that Jagex has been building up a Quest-line in which the Mysteries of the Kingdom of Asgarnia will finally be solved.
After all, the whole "When the Chosen One comes, she will take up the Banner and lead Falador and Asgarnia to its destiny"

fits easily into the Divine drama of the 6th Age

, the Kingdom being divided between

Saradomin

and

Zamorak

, while also hosting the Druids of Taverley.
Or, alternately, it could form a new, fresh Temple Knight Quest Series in which we are finally promoted to a new rank and even learn the located of their hidden base.

Saradominist

World Guardian

emeritus
My first loyalty is to protecting Gielinor. My second is to the patron of the Myreque.
My third is to

Tumeken

and the bloodline of Senliten.

09-Jan-2019 19:42:18

Jan

2007

Ian Adler

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I recall there also being speculation as to whether

Lady Eva Cashien

- Sir Tiffy Cashien's niece and our ally in the Salt in the Wound Quest - was the Chosen One. She is, after all, a powerful warrior, a Temple Knight, and one of the few Asgarnian women with a anything resembling a strong plot-line attached to them.

In addition, though I recall no speculation regarding her, there is

Princess Miazrqa

from the Grim Tales Quest. She has played no role since, of course, but she is the Princess of Asgarnia and the great niece of King Vallance, so she does have a claim to throne (as well as being the only member of the royal family we have ever met in the flesh.

In short and and total sum, we need a Quest or three in which the riddle of the missing King Vallance - this longest of unsolved mysteries - is finally put to rest.

Saradominist

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emeritus
My first loyalty is to protecting Gielinor. My second is to the patron of the Myreque.
My third is to

Tumeken

and the bloodline of Senliten.

09-Jan-2019 19:42:36

Deltaslug

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+1

10-Jan-2019 03:11:50

Jan

2007

Ian Adler

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One other question that needs answering is whether Saradomin himself will get involved, seeing as he is sitting on the second floor of the White Knights' Castle.

Saradominist

World Guardian

emeritus
My first loyalty is to protecting Gielinor. My second is to the patron of the Myreque.
My third is to

Tumeken

and the bloodline of Senliten.

30-Apr-2020 03:45:05

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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Ian Adler said :
Could we return to the Unfinished Business project and finally reveal what happened to
King Vallance of Asgarnia
?

Short answer: yes but probably not any time soon as it didn't not score high votes in the big 2019 Runeacape Survey.

I have a theory what happened to the King though - similar to the Pharaoh, Amascut, Kranon the Ambassador and perhaps Mah and even the other Elder Gods, His Majesty might have been corrupted and quarantined.

30-Apr-2020 04:58:29

Jan

2007

Ian Adler

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Dilbert2001 said :
Ian Adler said :
Could we return to the Unfinished Business project and finally reveal what happened to
King Vallance of Asgarnia
?

Short answer: yes but probably not any time soon as it didn't not score high votes in the big 2019 Runeacape Survey.

I have a theory what happened to the King though - similar to the Pharaoh, Amascut, Kranon the Ambassador and perhaps Mah and even the other Elder Gods, His Majesty might have been corrupted and quarantined.

Mah and the other Elder Gods were not corrupted (Mah just lacked the required anima at her birth, and we saw Jas recently), but beyond that your theory stands. Officials getting corrupted does seem to be a theme. Even Emir Shah was poisoned by Jabari, and I would not put it past the Church of Saradomin (or even a few of the White Knights) to have done something similar will King Vallance.

Saradominist

World Guardian

emeritus
My first loyalty is to protecting Gielinor. My second is to the patron of the Myreque.
My third is to

Tumeken

and the bloodline of Senliten.

30-Apr-2020 17:55:25 - Last edited on 30-Apr-2020 18:03:05 by Ian Adler

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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Ian Adler said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Ian Adler said :
Could we return to the Unfinished Business project and finally reveal what happened to
King Vallance of Asgarnia
?

Short answer: yes but probably not any time soon as it didn't not score high votes in the big 2019 Runeacape Survey.

I have a theory what happened to the King though - similar to the Pharaoh, Amascut, Kranon the Ambassador and perhaps Mah and even the other Elder Gods, His Majesty might have been corrupted and quarantined.

Mah and the other Elder Gods were not corrupted (Mah just lacked the required anima at her birth, and we saw Jas recently), but beyond that your theory stands. Officials getting corrupted does seem to be a theme. Even Emir Shah was poisoned by Jabari, and I would not put it past the Church of Saradomin (or even a few of the White Knights) to have done something similar will King Vallance.

Seren said Mom Mah was corrupted:

"Ask Seren about the

corruption

of Mah's core.
PLAYER:I found Mah's core in the deepest part of the nightmare. There was something wrong with it, like it had been

corrupted

.
SEREN:Then the sickness that plagued her must have wound its way right through her deepest essence, or...originated there. Player, what did this

corruption

look like?
PLAYER:Like an icy scar. A spiral of blue crystal carved deep into the core.
SEREN:Just like the eggs in the Elder Halls. Surely it could not be...
PLAYER:What is it, Seren?
SEREN:I cannot think about this, Player, not now. Perhaps there are others that can help you understand.

https://runescape.wiki/w/Transcript:Children_of_Mah

30-Apr-2020 19:20:10

Jun

2016

Vice-Virgo

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Okay, more lore than I can handle at once, and it feels a bit like spam, the way it's laid out (several posts in a row, without anyone else in-between), but yes, it would be interesting to revisit this. I have wondered for some time if Falador will ever be guarded by a reunited collective of knights (though, for obvious reasons, this is unlikely to ever happen). They will probably have a quest in the future that explains the past history and politics (I supported the Kinshra, as they have the same right to be Falador's chosen guardians as the White Knights, but the Temple Knights, don't forget, are affiliated with the latter-they're just the more covert aspect of the order). I would be interested to see what they do regarding the King, and if it's anything like what happened with the Emir in Al-Kharid, and Prince Ali's coronation/ascension to the role in succession of his father. Sorry if that's a spoiler, I just assume that others reading this are already in the know on the quests and lore that can be accessed from an early level.

02-May-2020 18:29:53

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