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Dilbert2001
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It is a really fun quest with plenty of explorations, puzzles and great cliffhangers.

As expected, Bilrach didn't last long after the likes of superior Mahjarrat and GWD2 general banished the old lame duck GWD1 Kril.

Also as expected, Moia turned against Bilrch, but isn't it really Moia? Or something/somebody else controlling her (since 'Til Death Do Us Apart) who triggered the same Strange Power we used to see in Fremmenik Saga when Bilrach broke the Mahjarrat Ritual Marker? Well, we know it couldn't be Zamorak as Bilrach mistakently though in Fremmenik Saga as we World Guardian has banished Zamorak not long ago.

The next quest line is going to be very fascinating, and likely connect a lot of ancient Mahjarrat and Daemonheim storylines together... and isn't it incidental the Winter Track also features Mahjarrat and Fremmenik items?

06-Dec-2022 04:28:52 - Last edited on 06-Dec-2022 04:37:42 by Dilbert2001

Dilbert2001
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This quest is really more fun and revealing than I anticipated.

I don't doubt plenty of players already knew the old GWD Kril would be no match to the far superior GWD2 Nymora even before the beginning of the Civil War. He thought he was huge but in reality it was just illusions and not the solutions they promised to be. The more unexpected powers actually is revealed through the Mahjarrat and their use of the Ritual Marker.

So Bilrach banished Kril easily and then Moia turned against him and we witnessed the 2nd coming of the Strange Power since 2010:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0O1oLvgfzo

Did Bilrach die? What's next? We knew at the end of "Til Death Do Us Apart Moia told us she felt changed by the event. Perhaps in the next continuing RS3 saga, we will see the change.

08-Dec-2022 16:53:26 - Last edited on 08-Dec-2022 16:55:37 by Dilbert2001

Webmaster453
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I thought it worse than Salt the Wound.

Vengeance with tier 30 and lower equipment beat the Magister.

Vengeance is not in the room with the important super weapon instead above it poorly vetting random volunteers.

They left their super weapon unguarded and then they used the super weapon without checking it.

Moia is randomly the strongest Mahjarrat after being subservient to and belittled by all the others. Incite Fear and Smoke Cloud use soul runes so Mahjarrat have been using soul magic since far before Moia's birth/creation. Moia just learning soul magic shouldn't be making her this strong.

Might as well had Moia drop a pillar on Bilrach.

08-Dec-2022 19:06:57

Dilbert2001
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I thought it worse than Salt the Wound.

Vengeance with tier 30 and lower equipment beat the Magister.

Vengeance is not in the room with the important super weapon instead above it poorly vetting random volunteers.

They left their super weapon unguarded and then they used the super weapon without checking it.

Moia is randomly the strongest Mahjarrat after being subservient to and belittled by all the others. Incite Fear and Smoke Cloud use soul runes so Mahjarrat have been using soul magic since far before Moia's birth/creation. Moia just learning soul magic shouldn't be making her this strong.

Might as well had Moia drop a pillar on Bilrach.


Perhaps you haven't learned combat strength of NPCs in quests and game modes are very different since 2001? Even Elvarg in RSC quest Dragon Slayer since 2001 and the Elvarg in everyday regular game modes in RSC/RS2/RS3/OSRS are totally different.

Actually far more players like easy "boss" fights in RSC/RS2/RS3/OSRSS, and that's what Jagex is giving us now and likely in the future.

08-Dec-2022 19:15:55

Webmaster453
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I earned the Dominion gloves on my Zerker and this account before EOC. I used to enjoy Dominion runs and I don't anymore not because it's easier. There's a debuff that would remove your weapons except Goliath Gloves since it goes in the gloves slot. Now the Goliath Gloves are a terrible weapon when before they were top tier.

That's besides the point, I don't know where you got the idea I have a problem with the fights being easy.

I don't remember if Vengeance's equipment came from her brother or something but that's my problem with that part.

Moia beats Khazard and Bilrach without any player input.

08-Dec-2022 19:32:02

Dilbert2001
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It is not just a matter of boss fight in quests being easy, the most and undeniable point is combat of all quest NPCs have never been the same as the game mode versions of the same NPC ever since 2001 in RSC/RS2/RS3/OSRS.

08-Dec-2022 19:37:42

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It is not just a matter of boss fight in quests being easy, the most and undeniable point is combat of all quest NPCs have never been the same as the game mode versions of the same NPC ever since 2001 in RSC/RS2/RS3/OSRS.
Seems you can't drop the illiterate act in your own topic as that doesn't respond to anything I said.

Vengeance is just a normal human beating another character she shouldn't be. I do not care if it's a player controlled fight or off screen narrative. Maybe if she went toe to toe with Thok before this I would believe it. Thok has been inexplicable strong from the beginning unlike Vengeance who was beaten, poisoned, and left for dead by player spoofs.

Once again, you don't even fight Khazard or Bilrach as Moia.

08-Dec-2022 19:54:14

Dilbert2001
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Again, in quests the World/Time Guardian as well as all NPC behave differently in combat.

Why should we have the illiterate act to think mobs take the same damage from Vengeance or whatever from the player or other NPC as game mode? Thok kill all dino with his Stick in in hit. Do we one hit dinos with the Stick in one hit in game mode?

Once again, we can fight any NPC as other NPC if Jagex want us to play as other NPCs. We have done that before as Icthlarin and others too. We just do combat differently in quest mode regardless we play as the player, Itchlarin or Moia.

08-Dec-2022 20:12:47

God Drakan
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I thought it worse than Salt the Wound.

Vengeance with tier 30 and lower equipment beat the Magister.

Vengeance is not in the room with the important super weapon instead above it poorly vetting random volunteers.

They left their super weapon unguarded and then they used the super weapon without checking it.

Moia is randomly the strongest Mahjarrat after being subservient to and belittled by all the others. Incite Fear and Smoke Cloud use soul runes so Mahjarrat have been using soul magic since far before Moia's birth/creation. Moia just learning soul magic shouldn't be making her this strong.

Might as well had Moia drop a pillar on Bilrach.


Quests became absolute trash since the start of the 6th age crap, aside from a few. Dont even try to make sense of whats happening. Think of the massive build up for the elder god series and how that pile of crap ended.

08-Dec-2022 23:18:38

Dilbert2001
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Quests and lore based content like Archaeology and Elder God Wars played big roles in drawing players and payers to Jagex. Otherwise Jagex won't be enjoying record revenues in 2020 and 2021 if it wasn't because of the 18% and 20% growth in revenue in 2020 and 2021 respectively.

People like living games and living quests. I bet if Succession leads to 7th Age or pseudo 7th Age with Gielinoreans going boldly to planets where no one has gone before, then it will be even more dynamic than 6th Age or the death of Guthix.

08-Dec-2022 23:38:39

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